22. How to Shift Your Money Mindset and Start Hiring Your Dream Team with Christine Walsh

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This episode kicks off our Money Month series, where we’re diving deep into all things around money and finances as a business owner who’s growing a team!

In this episode, I chat with Christine Walsh, a financial coach who helps women entrepreneurs overcome financial fears and increase their income. We discuss the impact that our beliefs and mindset about money can have on a business owner's ability to grow their business and manage their finances. 

Christine begins by sharing her journey to becoming a financial coach, including how the events of 9/11 influenced her decision to leave investment banking and work in a more impactful way. She emphasizes that money is infinite and can be created, and that recognizing one's creative power and taking responsibility for it is absolutely essential.

We also delve into the topic of when a small business owner should hire their first employee. 

Christine and I agreed that being intentional in the hiring process is key and that there is no perfect answer. (I know, womp womp!) Rather, it’s about looking at the big picture and the numbers, as well as your own feelings, which can help business owners make more informed decisions. We also discuss starting with part-time or contractor positions to build up financial support and ensure sustainability for the business.

Throughout our conversation, Christine offers helpful mindset shifts for overcoming financial fears and maximizing team potential and return on investment.

If you’ve been thinking about hiring for your growing business, but the money side of things has been holding you back, dive into this episode for a dose of encouragement, mindset shifts, and actionable advice today!

In this episode, you’ll learn:

• The importance of recognizing and overcoming limiting beliefs about money that can hinder the growth and success of a business

• How to reframe beliefs about money to create a foundation that produces desired results

• Tips for small business owners on when and how to hire their first employee, including being intentional in the hiring process and building up financial support

• The role of mindset and thought processes in building a successful business

Mentioned in This Episode: 

• Money Archetype Quiz - https://www.christinemwalsh.com/Money-Archetype-Quiz

• Christine’s Website - https://www.ChristineMWalsh.com 

• Christine on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/christinewalsh-moneymentor/

• Christine on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/christine.marie.walsh/ 

• TIR Episode 13 Growing Your Team with Intention - https://www.sprouthr.co/13

Transcription for Episode 22 - How to Shift Your Money Mindset and Start Hiring Your Dream Team with Christine Walsh

Ashley Cox  0:05  

Welcome to The Impact Ripple podcast, the go to source for hiring and leadership made simple, doable and fun for visionary female business owners. I'm your host, Ashley Cox, author, certified HR expert and founder of Sprout HR. And I believe that you don't have to change who you are to be a great leader, because you already are one. Join me as we kiss uncertainty and overwhelm goodbye and say hello to the tools and support you need to grow a profitable, sustainable, impactful team with more confidence and ease. 

Ashley Cox  0:44  

On today's episode, I'm joined by Christine Walsh. Christine is a financial coach who helps visionary women entrepreneurs, break through their money ceiling, reduce financial fear, and increase their income, so they are financially sovereign without busting their ass to get there. I don't know about you, but I am all here for that. During our conversation, Christine shares with us about how money stories can hold us back when it comes to growing our businesses and our teams and how to take our power back. She also shares helpful mindset shifts when it comes to the financial commitment hiring a team requires. And we discuss how to leverage your team to maximize their full potential, as well as your return on your financial and time investments. This episode is a beautiful blend of empathy, compassion, and support around what can often be a pretty tough topic to talk about. You'll get to experience Christine's ability to both hold space for those big emotions that come up around money, as well as her genius for financial planning and strategy to help you reach your goals as you grow your team. Now, here's my conversation with Christine Walsh. 

Ashley Cox  2:04  

Hey there, Christine, and welcome to The Impact Ripple. I'm so excited to have you joining me today.

Christine Walsh  2:10  

Thank you, thank you, thank you for giving me the privilege to hang out with you and talk, money and leadership and time and team and all that good stuff and the ripple impact of that.

Ashley Cox  2:23  

Hmm, I guess that's what we're all about here. You know, it's so exciting to have you on the show today. And for our listeners, I'm extra excited to have Christine because I've actually been working with Christine as my financial coach for about the past 18 ish months or so maybe a little bit longer. And it she has legitimately made a world of difference in my life in my business in how I view myself, and just has been such a gift and such a joy. So I'm eager to introduce Christine to you, and to just share her brilliance and her expertise in all things money related. And Christine, you're actually our very first guest in our money month series. So I'm excited to just get this kicked off with so much enthusiasm and so much knowledge and expertise. So thank you again for being here. Let's dive right in. Tell us a little bit about your journey. You know, this is one of the things I always find so interesting about you and your story and how you came to be working with women, specifically around finances around money. So share with our audience a little bit about your journey and how you came to be doing this work today.

Christine Walsh  3:34  

Yeah, absolutely. Well, I didn't always like money. And that is funny because it's not funny. Haha, it's funny, true because I was supposed to be the money expert. I went to business school and was groomed essentially to go into finance. I grew up in New York City. So every once in a while you're here a couple of years and maybe coffee and a little bit of New York City accent on the on the line here but I was groomed to go to business school and go to finance and I remember my mom always saying I was debating on where to go to college and I wanted to go to the Fashion Institute of Technology because I love clothes I love I wanted to be a buyer at Bloomingdale's and she said Christine, you go to Finance study finance go into finance go work at a Wall Street and then make all the money you want and then you can buy all the clothes you want forget about fashion school and I was like dream crushed. And I can laugh with my mom about that now because we do we do chuckle about it but I went to business school and when I left that was my trajectory was work up the corporate ladder in investment banking houses in New York. And really was didn't really question it I didn't really and so I learned I had the booksmart, there was I was working on the investment advisory side of finances, so not versus like accounting or anything like that. And 911 had a big impact on I was in my late 20s. And if you're ever lived in New York City or any big city, for that matter, and you're in your 20s, it's, you know, the world is your oyster, it is having a good time. You know, you're young, you feel invincible, or at least that's how I felt, and 911 happened. And that was being in the financial services industry was a big impact, because so much of the heart of the financial services industry is in lower Manhattan, where the the Twin Towers were. And including my family is civil servants. They were all firemen and stuff like that, no, and fortunately, no one perished, specifically my family. But we did have close connections of people passing through that and everything that came subsequently after that event. 

Christine Walsh  6:01  

So from that point, I realized that life is short. Was this really what I wanted to be doing sitting, I had the corner office overlooking Central Park, I was making multiple six figures, moving up the corporate ladder, VP, SVP, all that stuff, and I was like, I don't think I want to do this. So I quit my job, moved out of New York City, left my parents and my family and then a boyfriend. And moved out to Colorado, which is where I live now. And I've been out here the past 17 years. And when I got out here, not having the foundation of family and stuff like that, I found my way working different jobs and really got into I live in a very small town, the entrepreneurial aspect of living in a small town, we have a lot of entrepreneurs who live in, I'm in Steamboat Springs, Colorado, in the northwest corner at the top of the state, and doing accounting using my accounting degree, to help support small businesses. And I would see them through my work with them stressing out about money. And me holding space to the degree I could back then. And also at the same time, under recognizing my own financials were going my personal finances were kind of going down the tube I didn't wasn't contributing to my IRA and all the things that I should be doing my 401 K and, you know, kind of working freelance jobs and not saving and so getting myself into debt. So they're stressing the people, I'm working for them do the work for mine stressing, and then the oh eight housing crisis happened and that we lagged a little bit where we are.

Christine Walsh  6:01  

 So it's really around 2010, where it really had the most impact I lost my job actually ended as a Financial Controller, or real estate development company, lost my house for closure. And really had a crappy boyfriend at that time. So the trifecta of you know, having emotional financial, mental support at that point wasn't wasn't there. And I realized I was like, God, all these books, smarts, Christine, you know, and really beating myself up wish I was just embarrassed to be the money expert. And here I am. It's crumbling. And I can't tell anyone, I couldn't tell my parents, they'd worry about me. Sure. My friends, I was embarrassed to say anything to them. You know, I told some trusted people, but even then, and was really hard time for me and realized at one point, I said, Alright, Christine, like something's, there's got to be a better way. And that's when I recognize that I have to take the power back into my own hands, not from a place of like, oh, it's all on me. But more just like, I can't, I don't think I was put on this earth to struggle like this. I gotta start, I got this got to be a better way when I ever I say they still say that have that saying every so often when I'm looking at a problem, I'm like, There's got to be a better way. I know, at that point, something's gonna click like, yeah. So at that point, that's when I started to go down my own personal development path around just spinning thoughts in my head of like, how do I organize this? And really looked at my own financial situation with honesty with a lot of humility, with a lot of crying and times with a lot of anger, you know, all the emotions, and then decided at one point, I can't be the only one going through stuff like this and started helping other people going through I went through coach certification program because I was being coached at the time. And after I graduated from that year long program, I said, I can't not do this work. I have tools from coaching. I have tools from finance that I never really used because it was afraid to money. And I'm the business started from there. So yeah, it's my life journey. This business is a result of my life journey. And I think it's what helps me hold space for others in hard spots around finances, because I've been there in different different elements, different circumstance. But yeah, so that's the long, short story.

Ashley Cox  10:32  

I just so appreciate you sharing that. Because even if you came from a financial background, you can still experience life. Right. And I think that so often, we think that there's a magic trick, that you never experience any hardship or, you know, financial, you know, struggles. And that's not the case. But having those tools like you mentioned, that's what has helped you to say, Okay, I'm going to take my power back. And here's how I can bring that into relationship into community into service and help other people learn that maybe Sometimes life happens. And here's some tools to help us when it does.

Christine Walsh  11:20  

Yeah, absolutely.

Ashley Cox  11:23  

And I can speak from my own experience working with you, Christine, that you have a gift or holding space for those big emotions, because finances I mean, I mean, they say, right, they say that women would rather talk about their own death than money. And that's a problem, right? Like, you know, we should not feel so held back about talking about something that can be so empowering. And that can be a tool for us to do more good in this world. And I think that's one of the most beautiful things that you've taught me and our work together, is that money gets to be a tool to help us do more good. And a lot of times we see it as you know, something that's bad, or it's negative, or there's a lot of money blocks that we talk about around that. So I'd love for us to talk a little bit about what are some of those money blocks or those common, you know, challenges that you see with business owners in the work that you're doing. And since we talked about hiring and leadership here, specifically around hiring, because there's a lot there? 

Christine Walsh  12:27  

Absolutely, absolutely. For businesses, as you're growing a business, it, it takes resources, it takes time, it takes energy, and it takes money. And of course, the one that we feel the most tangible two, it's almost like we can, we'll go as much as we can physically to make it happen, we may not sleep at times, you know, we'll burn the midnight candle, whatever it is to get the business going. But we've really feel it a lot with our finances, because we're seeing that number in the bank account, go up or down. And so as we grow business, and naturally, so we start to hire and bring on team and that there's an expense connected with that. And it’s usually money unless you're bartering services, or trading bananas for someone coming in and doing your administrative work or your you know, your project manager or whatever, that you're going to be exchanging money and that should impact and that I think many of us come from a mindset of team is going to cost me money hiring a team member is going to cost me money. And my invitation and what things that we've talked about, and I know you talk with your clients is this idea of how can my team member that I'm hiring my employee that I'm hiring, whether they're working part time, they're working, you know, full time be an asset. And that is a starts with our mindset first thinking of them as an asset. Like if if they're not happy, not and that I don't mean that from a financial point of view, but just as like they're being encouraged. They're being heard. There's a mutual respect, of course, because it's a partnership. But from there, how do we leverage their work to support the the income flow into the back into the business and then back out? So that's one of the big blocks that I see is that as that what's this going to cost me? Yeah. As we hire someone, and it makes sense, you have to run the numbers. And what if you ran the numbers with the, the, the energetic perspective of I hire this person and they free up time for me If I hire this person, then they go out and do the sales work to start some of the legwork there. You know, I think you get to a certain point in business, where time becomes more valuable than money.

Ashley Cox  15:16  

Yeah, and we see that a lot with our clients at Sprout HR. You know, it really is, I have one client, Jennifer, and she will tell you, and she will tell everybody that the greatest thing is being able to buy back her time, because that's what you have to invest initially, right, and you have time, you don't have a lot of money. And then when you start making more money, then you have the opportunity to invest and buy back that time.

Christine Walsh  15:42  

And time is finite. It's life's currency. And money is is infinite, it gets to be created. Because it's an idea. It's a, it's a tool that we also leverage. But money gets to be created time we don't create, I mean, on some level where there probably is the Illusion of Time, or flow being in the flow state or something like that, where time doesn't exist. But we do all still work on a 24 hour clock and a certain average length of life, at least, again, on one 3d level.

Ashley Cox  16:20  

Yeah, and I love when you talk about, you know that money is infinite, that it can be created. And I know a lot of the times, you know, when we're talking, you're talking about being the Create tricks. And I would love for you to talk a little bit about that. Because I think sometimes we can get so stuck in just these are the numbers that are in my bank account. And I need team and I want team. And these are the numbers in my bank account. And so it can create that block toward not having enough. Right?

Christine Walsh  16:55  

Exactly, exactly. Again, another thing that may we haven't been taught whether that's at home, whether that was at school, whether that was just the way it was designed through capitalism, I don't know. Or alternatively, some people are coming from corporate, in starting their own businesses where money feels like it's finite, like, this is the salary cap, you get, um, we are just generally speaking in co creation with life. And so what I speak to is this idea of how are we creating the things in our life because it's not. And many people are, don't feel that way they feel that I'm there at the effect of, and there's very valid reasons of why that is. And I think if the truth of us, is love. And love is about creativity, it's about expansion, it's about growth, if our life I mean, we start out as little I don't want chromosomes or something, and we grow life is about life is about growth. So and that's through creation, right? Like we're, we are created through our mother's womb, we everything's about creativity. So is that power, not in us. That's the curiosity. 

Christine Walsh  18:19  

So I know I'm going a little on the esoteric side from like being talking about hiring. But that's if we recognize our own creative power. And how we've, the perception that we look out into the world and how we've created what we've created, where it's where we live. And I don't say this from a blaming point of view, if you feel like you're not if our listeners feel like they're not in a place where they want to be, there is some act of us taking responsibility of our creative power, whether it's the what we want to see or we don't want to see. And that can be very humbling, and it can be very confronting, and I totally appreciate that and respect that. And I want to honor that, for anyone who is looking at the bank account and being like, Hey, I mean, to say I created the, you know, the 100 bucks that's in there. And I really want you know, 100 million in there, whatever. That's humbling. 

Christine Walsh  18:29  

And we're built of 70 trillion cells of like Stardust magic. Do we can we must have some creative power within us and money? Is it as a tool, just like, our computers are a tool, how are we using it and to, to be a steward of it. And a lot of the work that I do with clients is is looking at the belief systems that we were handed down as in our environment growing up so much of that is from being super young and starting to just even bring lightness to what that is because so many of our belief systems. Growing up, don't apply I on money don't apply to money in our business is there's a lot of incongruence there yet many business owners are using money doesn't grow on trees. There's never enough to go around, we can't afford that. Those are layering over to business. And it's probably one of the key reasons why either you're not hiring to support yourself. You're not, you know, not making the money you want. Those beliefs have to be integrated, reconciled, reframed whatever, and start building a foundation of belief systems that create results that have what you want, which I don't say is any small feat, either. I totally appreciate that. And I get that. Sure. And that's the hard work. Sometimes you don't want to like take down small business, and I hope I could say that word, sorry. You know, this small business stuff is so hard, really, what's really hard is us managing the thought processes in our head, what thoughts? Am I instilling constant? And what what do I need to be putting into my headspace so that I am creating the things I want? And I know there's more to that. And

Ashley Cox  21:23  

Yeah, belief systems, it's, it's so important, and I think it it really plays out in every part of being a business owner, you know, we have beliefs in some areas that are really healthy, and they're strong. And they're the reason why we're so successful at A or B. And then there's other areas where maybe you grew up in poverty, maybe you grew up with parents or a family or, you know, a surrounding the culture or environment that you grew up in that had a really toxic relationship with money. And so you've got these, these stories and these experiences, and then we get into confirmation bias, right? Like, this must be true. And now I'm going to look for all of the ways that this is true. And I have all of my own personal money stories. And these are things that Christina and I, you know, we've been working through together, and there is so much limitless potential as as humans that we have. And I think that's the beauty like, like you said, it's the 70 trillion cells of magic dust that we're made up of. And it still is hard work. Sometimes we do get through that.

Christine Walsh  22:34  

I mean, we're seeing the evidence of that, in our the systemic issues that go on in our country around the world, we we get the reflection back of there isn't enough. Yeah. That could be a whole nother talk show. Yeah, I and I want to honor that part. And I don't stand here saying I have the answer to that as much as I have my own agency of myself. How can I manage this mini universe? To be the ripple effect? Out into the way into the world? It's bigger, small ways. And I'm not always doing it right, either. And I also am curious to see what the possibility of potential could be, how could money look differently for me to start so that my eyes look out to the world in a different way. And that's what I did when I had that financial breaks of personal breakdown. I said, it's like, there's gotta be another way to do this, okay, I don't think I was put on this earth to struggle like this, you know, and we, you know, my struggle is different from yours, and you ours are different from someone else, and not to minimize or any or amplify anyone's experience as much as to just say, there's an opportunity here to have a conversation with ourselves and some and it can be humbling, and it can be confronting, and you're not alone. So just as you know, we talk about this still there. We're in business. And those stories and the modeling that we had, is being required to be redefined. In small business and right, I think of money touching so many parts of our business, whether it is hiring, or it's doing the selling, or it's receiving the money and the invoicing and all that good stuff. Yeah, at having a healthier relationship with money is is integral and I call it often the final frontier of Business Big cuz everyone's like, well, I'll just, I'll do the marketing first, you know, like, get the marketing get the people in, then I can have the money to hire the person. And maybe, maybe some of those steps need to be readjusted.

Ashley Cox  25:14  

Yeah, for sure. And I know, you know, we work with a lot of women who kind of push that hiring off till it's too late. You know, they're to the point of they're stressed out, they're burnt out, they're working 14 days a week, they're, you know, they're overextended in every area of life. And so I think one of the big questions and something that you and I have talked about a little bit is, you know, should someone hire help first or make money first? Like, it's kind of the chicken in the egg, right? Like, which of these pieces comes first? And how do I know?

Christine Walsh  25:48  

100%. And I bring that idea to the concept of either or it feels a lot like it can be either I do this, or I do that. And I want to invite into the conversation, the idea of both and that it's a it is a both and because that is the eternal question, right? We look up should I hire first, I'm sure that if I went on Google, there'll be a bazillion things to look up should I hire first and every one is different than the next. So much about the work that I do with my clients and with you is about how it resonates with your value system, your business value system, your mission. And how we can start to as I shared in the beginning, think about how the person I bring on will allow me either to make money in that in that role helps them make money. An example of that might be someone who hire someone to do their job, and they make my like, they go out into the sales. First, for the business, that's a person who makes money for business. And even when I think of someone like an executive assistant, or someone who feel or even bookkeeper, you know, those are accounting expense, human resources, like having a, that end of the spectrum can feel like oh, that's an expense, it's not going to generate income. However, if it frees you up time, that may indirectly allow you to go out and do more sales and marketing. Alternatively, save you money. If someone's like, on the books, and someone's looking at the books, they may be like, hey, Christine, you're spending, you know, $8,000 on subscriptions each month, which can be easily done, I get it. Everything is a subscription now.

Ashley Cox  27:39  

It's only $25.

Christine Walsh  27:42  

Or the best like wait, you know, have a free trial for seven days. And then and then seven days, you're like in a whole nother world. years later you realize, but how can we start to think about leveraging the team? So in the spirit of the question, hire first. Make money first, I think it's a balance. I think it is about making enough money to the place where you feel secure enough that you can hire someone and you have that income coming in and leveraging the person not in a manipulative way or I don't mean it like that, but just like elevating them to their skill set that half the time. I mean, I know this because I work in the financial world here. I get people who are doing their own bookkeeping, not good at it, making mistakes. And we'll hire someone for an AI granted across the country, I get that rates of for bookkeepers are different. So whatever, 50 to $100 an hour plus and minus somewhere in there, when their hourly is 200 300 $400 an hour. And it's short sighted.

Ashley Cox  28:56  

And it probably takes them two to three times longer to do it. So now we're spending $600 An hour instead of the $50. An hour. 

Christine Walsh  29:03  

Right, exactly, exactly. So that's how I think about the hire first. I do get that sense. I mean, I'm a financial person. So I and we've gone through exercises like this where I think about it in a three pronged way. There is the emotional aspect of cut, I'd love to hire someone, it'd be amazing to have that support. There's the logic point of view, which is alright, I gotta run the numbers. How many hours do I want to work them to work for me? What does that look like? I know you have a great payroll calculator tool that you use, and then the intuitive like, you know, what's the big picture here? How can I actually bring have them elevate and amplify their own role and empower them to be the best of the bookkeeper the best team member The best so that they actually bring so much more abundance into the business. Yeah. And I think it takes all three of those pieces.

Ashley Cox  30:09  

Yeah, yeah, I love that three prong approach. I think that's always when I feel myself spinning. I go back to that and say, Okay, let's look at each of these areas. And you know, sometimes it's an emotional thing. And I'm just having some kind of feeling about it that I need to allow myself to feel and experience and this is scary. And this is, you know, something new that I'm doing. And I'm going to have to push up against my, you know, my risk tolerance a little bit here. Or it's a logical thing. It's like, I physically do not have the money. But if this is something that's important, how else can I create the money? What else can I do to bring that in to be able to invest in the thing that I need? That's going to give me my time back or my energy or the opportunity to work on more revenue generating activities? Right, Yeah. 

Christine Walsh  31:01  

If we have money, stories, we get hung, we're in emotional, we get to stop there. And we're like, okay, no, make money first. Either or very kind of trauma thinking in a way, you know? And so I invite that idea of both, and it is there's no perfect answer. As much as bringing all the pieces together and looking at the big picture, you know, what are the numbers? What am I feeling? It's okay, that I'm a little nervous about bringing someone on? And then how could this person actually helped me make money either directly or indirectly?

Ashley Cox  31:39  

Yeah. And that's what I love about the possibility of bringing on really brilliant team members. You know, we're not just bringing on Joe Schmo from down the street, who has no experience and has no idea what they're doing. You know, the thing that I think is most important, as we're starting down that hiring process, that hiring path, is, are we being really intentional about who we're bringing on, what role they're going to be playing, how that's going to contribute either to our financial growth or our time growth. So that way, we can focus on more of the right things and make more money. But even, you know, one of the things I love most about Mara, so if you've not listened to the show before, Mara is my right hand gal, and she's literally life to me. But one of the things I love about her is that she's always looking for ways to streamline to save time to be more efficient. And I think that's so advantageous, and we don't think about, sometimes we're touching things four and five and six times. And what if we only touched it once or twice like that? Right there can buy you back hours? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So what Christine, I think what you're saying is that there's no certain financial goal or milestone or number that when you hit this, you know, it is time to hire?

Christine Walsh  32:58  

Well, what I would suggest from practical boots on the ground financial point of view is if it feels that it's a risk to take someone, especially sort of that critical time of you, this may be your first hire, it might be your you know, kind of, yeah, you haven't been hiring for a long time or something like that is what if you were, you know, you put the intention out there everything is intention. And you start to you understand what you want to pay someone and you start to put money into each time money comes into the bank each or once a month, twice a month, you'd look at what revenue or what income came in through the bank account, and you put a certain percentage away until you get a month, two months, three months of this person's pay saved up. And then you'll be like, Okay, I have some buffer here, if I need it. And that can help you. If If money. I mean, we're all thinking about money in our businesses, whether we want to or we don't whether we like it, or we don't like it. And when it comes down to it, sometimes running those numbers and saying, okay, is this really what I want? How do I start to create the actions towards that? And I think that's one of the kind of boots on the ground activities that I like to say, for some people that may be like, yeah, if I can save up one month of a salary for someone, and as if I was paying someone to put that aside, I know in month two, I can start the hiring process. Maybe in month three, they come on board, I have a couple of months of salary available for them. And I'm my intention is to help them help me. Save time, make money, save money, save time, one of those four quadrants.

Ashley Cox  34:48  

Or all of them! Exactly. Exactly. And you know, we talked in Episode 13. It was the first episode of season two about grow When you're your team intentionally, and so if you're thinking, you know, oh my gosh, I have to go out and hire a full time employee on, you know, a $60,000 a year salary. Well, let's slow down a little bit. Because we can hire someone part time, we can bring in a contractor first, then you can move to employees, you can really grow that team with a lot of intention and build up the financial support to make sure that you can keep them and that it is sustainable for you and your business. And then if there's a hard time, and it's not sustainable, there's other avenues that we can take as well. And all of them are okay. And I promise you that you will be okay. Oh, my gosh, I just love this conversation. I could talk to you all day, Christine. But I feel like this is a good point for us to kind of move into our final segment. And, and really my favorite segment of the show, and people keep telling me they love it. So imagine the impact is our final segment where we get to envision what it could look like to take action today. So Christine, could you help us paint that vision for our listeners with one final key thought or takeaway from our conversation today?

Christine Walsh  36:14  

Absolutely. What a cool name and part of the show. I invite the listeners and even you and me in a way, you know together as a collective energy in a way to imagine what a relationship with money might look like that is like the most appreciative, loving, understanding relationship you have and what that might feel like, you know, whether that even consider an existing relationship you have whether that's with a human, whether that's with a animal, whether that's with nature, of support, reciprocity, they don't call a currency for anything, it goes in and out. That fluidity, but something that feels like, partnership, I'm in partnership with this thing, because you are and it is the relationship, that one of the relationships one of the top three, probably that you'll be in with for the rest of your life. So imagine a relationship that is more congruent more. I think the word that just keeps me like supportive with each, like, I support money, money supports me, you know, supporting money might look like I'm looking at my bank account every so often I open up the credit card bill when it comes, you know, with a lot of love and compassion I get some of us that's that has been hard. It's been hard for me. But what if our relationship with money was a healthier one, whatever that means for each of our listeners, and I think of it myself, because it softens it. It opens it up. I feel my shoulders drop, I feel more expansion around it.

Ashley Cox  38:15  

I love that. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that. I mean, imagine the impact that more women with more money doing more good could have in our world. I think that's exactly what we need. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, my goodness. Well, Christine, this has been amazing. I know everyone is going to want to skedaddle on over to wherever you are on the internet and connect with you because you bring not only the brilliance of the financial strategy and the understanding of numbers and how money moves and flows in our businesses, but also the mindset piece, the the the compassion, the empathy around making money, easier to talk about making money more fun to talk about making money better and more exciting. So where can people connect with you? What's the best way for them to find you and all your brilliance?

Christine Walsh  39:08  

Thank you. Thank you. Absolutely. So my websites probably the easiest. And I'm sure it'll be in the show notes and stuff like that. It's www. Christine. So C H R I S T I N E. M as in money. Walsh W A L S H .com. ChristineMWalsh.com.

Ashley Cox  39:30  

Yes. And we will absolutely put that in our show notes for you because we want to make sure that you get there. And before we wrap up our conversation, I know you have a really fantastic quiz that I think everybody should go out and take. 

Christine Walsh  39:48  

Well, I'm a huge quiz person so I love knowing more about myself to read the quiz. And so I created a quiz called the money archetype quiz and it within In 10 questions, you'll receive a report that will indicate what dominant archetype you are in relationship to money. And with that, you'll also get some tools and tips on how to map navigate your archetype, where to go next with it, how to switch their six archetypes in all. And that is also on my website. So it'd be probably the easiest way to do that would be to hop on there. And it's just a fun way for us really accessible way for each of us to understand our dominant archetype features. And from there, right, the first key is, is awareness. And from there, we can do the next step. And so I think most of our listeners I can imagine are at some of the hot you know, the, the archetypes that really want to flourish. So it'll be cool. I'd love to see your name come through. And I'll send you a personal note to let you know that I seen it and stuff like that. And of course, if there's any questions about it, I'm all yours.

Ashley Cox  41:08  

Yes, hit that reply button on the email that you receive from Christine and let her know that you heard her on the impact ripple, that you took the quiz that you you learn something new, either during our conversation today or through the quiz, because she is one of the most gracious and generous people that I know. And I know that she should absolutely be in your world. So thank you, again, so much, Christine, for joining us today on the impact rebel podcast for this incredible conversation. It's been so great just to be able to have a different conversation around money than what we're used to hearing.

Christine Walsh  41:43  

You are so welcome. I'm so honored to be here on the impact Rebel, and I can't wait to see the impact that happens out in the world from this conversation.

Ashley Cox  41:53  

I love it. I love it. And thank you, dear leader for tuning in today. I hope that you found this episode encouraging and supportive, as Christine said as you consider hiring your first or next employee or even how to leverage your team that you currently have today. As always, it's an honor and a privilege to be here with and for you on your leadership journey.